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11/9/08 DoubleDash Message #3260   ''"If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.'' ... Matthew ... ch. XVII, v. 20) "

11/9/08 Aubs Message #3259   "We have not forgotten and are continue to pursue every possible lead or clue. But it will take a coordinated effort between local law enforcement and federal authorities to make real headway. ... Josh's Mom: Sorry I missed the annual prayer service for the first time. I thought it would be tonight, Nov. 9. "

11/8/08 DoubleDash Message #3258   Six years ago, on a night much like this one, Joshua Guimond left a card game in an apartment located very close to his dorm. He was never seen again. What happened to him? Some people were interviewed -- but not all. Why not? Anyone and everyone who may have known something about Josh's walk home that night, who knew Joshua in a school/social capacity, should have been spoken to. But they weren't. The sheriff thought Joshua may have accidentally drowned in one of the campus lakes -- but he didn't, because one of the nation's top investigative search & rescue teams, Trident, searched the lakes and found no trace of Joshua. In fact, they went so far as to tell the authorities that they should look elsewhere for Joshua. Dozens of people searched for Joshua on the campus grounds -- but authorities were not given permission to enter all the campus buildings right away. Why not? And, guess what, amongst the multitude of searchers, not one of them sunk in the mud. In fact, in the history of St. John's University, there is no record of anyone ever sinking in the mud at anytime. But there have been other disappearances in the area surrounding the place where Joshua vanished. Six years have passed, and the community in which Joshua excelled as a student has been strangely quiet. Nary a word is mentioned about Joshua in either the local newspapers or the Star Tribune. Why not? Does it not seem odd that a responsible, wise, sharp guy such as Josh disappeared, without a trace, on his college campus? Did anyone delve deeper, search more thoroughly, examine every avenue, interview all potential suspects, identify and verify all alibies -- in other words, in the days immediately following Josh's disappearance, was a complete and exhaustive examination performed to learn why an upstanding, exceedingly intelligent, young man was suddenly gone? Someone reading this right now may know something, or have an idea about who or whom might have been involved. Did you know that you can report tips to the FBI anonymously? Truth is a powerful thing, and telling it is liberating. Justice is a part of the soul of life, and every victim deserves justice. Those who withhold it will reap the darkness they sow. Six years ... that's a long time to make a family wait for answers. Do you know what happened to Joshua that cold Autumn night six years ago today? Do you have an idea, a suspicion? It's time to do the right thing -- for Joshua, for his family and friends, and for yourself ... may God give you the courage to do the right thing.

11/8/08 Nick Message #3257   Unfortunately, I will not be able to be in Maple Lake tonight. But I will be saying my own prayers for Josh. May this year's prayer service be the last we need to hold.

11/4/08 Joshs Mom Message #3256   There will be a prayer service at Holy Cross Lutheran Church in Maple Lake Sat 11/8/08 at 6:30pm. This was the only time available as the church has other things going on. Everyone is welcome to join us. Keep Josh in your prayers and thanks to everyone for your kindness.

10/29/08 DoubleDash Message #3255   Six years have gone by now -- six long years -- and still, no one has had the courage to come forward and speak the truth? How much more time must go by? There's no time like the present. If you know something, but are concerned about revealing your identity, there are still ways to communicate. You could send a letter to a local newspaper for example. Or if you are afraid of possible repercussions, go to the FBI. Just please, say something.

10/28/08 Nick Message #3254   Unfortunately, it is almost that time of year again, with still no sign of Josh. I'm wondering if there are any plans being made for Nov. 9 or 10.

9/21/08 ivette Message #3253   i remember afew yrs back when they aired a story about missing young college students i knew right there and then it was not a drowning accident i just had this feeling it was someone sick doing this to these young handsome smart guys .today i dont know why but i this feeling came over me and i started thinking about the time they aired the story and so i looked it up online and here i am leavign u a message .its 2008 and they will be found and they will be punished to joshua your memory will kept alive and no matter what it takes justice will served and peace will come for u and your family i dont know u but i dont need to because i care and want u to know that if your family needs help from houston im here love always ivette martinez from houston texas god bless u joshua

7/25/08 Jon Message #3252   Dear Josh and family, lit a candle in the Church of St. Roch in Venice the other day and prayed for you. It wasn't the first time we have prayed for you here, nor will it be the last. Strength for all of his family and friends, and of course to him. Our thoughts are with you from here in the UK.

7/11/08 BMW Message #3251   Josh's Mom: It's good to hear that you're keeping people well informed. This certainly sounds like a great way to increase awareness.

7/9/08 DoubleDash Message #3250   What a wonderful way to keep attention focused on Josh. I think many people do believe Joshua was found. Another group thinks he might have been a victim of the "smiley face killer." I don't believe that. We will find out what happened to Joshua -- not finding out is not an option. So, to the perpetrator -- your dirty little secret will come out -- one way or another -- if you think you'll outwit the Lord above, think again

7/9/08 Joshs Mom Message #3249   I just thought I would let people know that the Josh Fund sponsered a golf tournament for Camp Friendship. We had a booth there and gave out Josh pins and missing posters. It is another way to keep the awareness out there that Josh is still missing. Everyone got a button and many people thought Josh had been found. We also had pins and posters at Frontier Park in Annandale over the 4th of July weekend.

6/18/08 Nick Message #3248   Happy birthday, Josh. I hope and pray that this is the last year that goes by before you are finally found.

6/18/08 joshs dad Message #3247   Happy birthday Josh,Love Dad.

6/15/08 DoubleDash Message #3246   God bless you, Joshua, wherever you are...we will not stop looking until we find you. To whoever did this -- the truth will out ... and the Lord will be your final judge.

6/15/08 joshs dad Message #3245   We are doing all we can to get you back home Josh, but these bastards have alot of connections,one day we will get through and see you again,love dad.

5/19/08 lisa Message #3244   Missing you Josh, just wanted to get updates, and see if there has been anything new..

5/5/08 Joshs Mom Message #3243   Perhaps the rest of Josh's family would have liked to know about the People interview. Why is it that Brian didn't pass the information on to someone else? As far as I know no one really knows what happened to Josh. You would think that we would take every oppertunity to let people know that he is still missing. If there is a concern that the story would give the impression that he has been found drown, then you would state that concern during the interview and request that you were allowed to read the article before publishing and then refuse to have what ever you don't agree with published. I think we need to take advantage of every oppertunity to make people aware that Josh has not been found.

5/4/08 lissa Message #3242   I am sorry, I didn't mean to say that I assumed what was being featured or talked about in the "people" story was all about young men found dead with a missing link to the water... I meant do the interview with yours and others' theories, the more coveragage the better is all I was thinking!

5/4/08 DoubleDash Message #3241   It's like a "catch 22." On the one hand, the fact that Josh's case is getting some attention (finally!!!!)is a huge blessing -- on the other hand, it is important that the media and public understand how Josh's case is so very different from the others. Hopefully there is a way we can capitalize on the publicity, while at the same time informing and educating both the public and media as to the true set of facts concerning Josh's disappearance. We can't allow the public or media to be misled into believing that Josh was drowned in a river or lake on campus -- that theory has been pushed by the sheriff's dept. for the past five years and has done nothing but impede progress in finding out what really happened. Please start calling, emailing and writing to all media venues to educate them about Josh's situation. Knowledge is power, the public and press need to know the truth -- and it will be through exploring the truth that Josh's disappearance will be solved.

5/2/08 joshs dad Message #3240   why would I want Josh lumped in with everybody else that was found in water, when his case is different from the rest? That just makes everybody think he is dead,which is what the media seems to assume with no evidence at all from the authorites.what part of no evidence at all do you not understand? So why is not an abduction a possibility? With no evidence at all anything is possible.

5/2/08 lissa Message #3239   As a friend, I guess have an ultamating question to Josh's dad, Brian... If people magazine wants to do a story or a feature about these missing young men, I dont understand why you would say no, especially if you know Josh's name and story can be out in full force again!

4/29/08 kimcon22000 Message #3238   To all the Guimond family and friends: We here in Florida fully support you in your on-going efforts to bring this case to a close. What a terrible state of affairs we are in when the police will not help to solve such a case. I am a father and husband and can not fully grasp how I may react had this had happened to me. All of Florida's thoughts and prayers wholeheartedy go to the Guimond family and their friends. Closure WILL COME in this life or the next. I hold hope and truely wish this family finds peace with an acceptable outcome. Let us here, in FL, know if we can help beyond our prayers for Josh and you. God Bless You!

4/29/08 cjp327 Message #3237   "I've watched for updates over the years on this site - hoping that there would be news about Josh. I just reread the message from his mom which is now even more heartbreaking since I became a mom. I'm still praying for Josh's safe return... but if that's not possible, I hope that the recent news about the ''smiley face gang'' brings more attention to Josh's case. ... "

4/28/08 BearMN Message #3236   "I have just finished reading through this site. My thoughts and prayers go out to Josh, his family and friends. ... Debbie in Blaine, MN"

4/28/08 nanc Message #3235   "I just sent you an email about a peice I seen on ''Good Morning America'' this morning but now see someone else mentioned that investigation here on the message board. As a mother of 3 sons, my prayers are with you. ... Here is the article I am referring to on the ABC website: ... http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=4738621&page=1 ... Guess I should have looked at this message board before sending you an email about something you are already aware of. Sorry."

4/25/08 joshs dad Message #3233   Josh was mentioned in the piece last night,but lets not foget one key piece of information. the stearns county sheriffs department right from the start said Josh was in stumpf lake, and the trident foundation cleared all three lakes on campus.The sheriffs department said Josh was in the lake with NO EVIDENCE AT ALL,so why would they say he is in the lake,but an abduction was not possible,NO EVIDENCE AT ALL? I believe it is because of the money and power St. Johns has,lets face the facts here,St. Johns has covered up all they could about the monks that like boys,what is one more cover up?

4/24/08 Aubs Message #3232   New developments; Josh named in investigation: Detectives Kevin Gannon and Anthony Duarte say they've discovered a link between death of University of Minnesota student Chris Jenkins and the drownings of at least 40 other men in 25 cities in 11 different states. Their investigation started 11 years ago in New York, but it wasn't until they started investigating Jenkins' death in Minneapolis that the pieces to puzzle began to come together. "The level of evil we are dealing with here is rampant, it's deep and it's widespread," Chris' mother Jan told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS ... From the time Chris disappeared, they felt wronged. They always believed that Minneapolis Police Department did not do all they could have to find Chris. Steve and Jan decided that if the MPD wasn't doing enough work on the case, they would do it themselves. … The Jenkins' spent tens of thousands of dollars on private investigators, testing and outside analysts. What makes Jan and Steve different is that they could afford all the tests. I frequently wonder how many families are out there, suffering, feeling wronged, but without the background or bank account to do anything. Story and video: http://kstp.com/article/stories/s421846.shtml?cat=10830v=1

4/22/08 Greg Message #3231   I have not been out to this site in a while, but I am pleased to see the passion that people continue to have in solving this case. I was with Josh that night, so if there is anything I can do or any questions I can help answer, please let me know. I think we can all agree that things were not done right by anyone investigating this case in the beginning. Its sad that people on a message board are the ones putting together the pieces. Keep up the good work!

4/21/08 DoubleDash Message #3230   It boggles my mind that *anyone* would still believe Josh is in that lake. If he had been, Trident would have found him, period. I wonder if Pat Wall would be willing to help. If anyone could crack the code of who took Josh and how -- I bet he could ... bet you could help quite a bit too, Aubs...I'm thinking about picketing at the next big event in D.C. at which media will be present...making a big sign with Josh's picture and details... and I think I'm going to put big red letters on it that say "COVER UP IN COLLEGEVILLE." In fact, I should have done it while the Pope was in D.C. -- but -- the crowds are huge. It would have been fitting, however. That's okay, there will be other opportunities. I never heard anything back when I wrote to the local (and state) politicians -- that was discouraging. Perhaps we should start a letter writing campaign, demanding that authorities *do something* other than ignore Josh's disappearance from St. John's. I am just disgusted at the lack of investigative thoroughness in this case -- it's obvious to me there's not much "drive" to search for the truth...hmmm, I wonder why

4/20/08 joshs dad Message #3229   Geojeff I would agree we need to get this back to the media, and that might happen soon if things work out. Also we could use a tough lawyer to start a lawsuit against the school for not providing a safe learning environment, and the former sheriff for doing nothing but tell us Josh was in Stumpf lake for 2 days with absolutly no evidence,which gave the abductors 2 days to get away with nobody looking for them.The only advice I was told by Patty was to look in homeless shelters, needless to say Josh did not leave on his own to go to a homeless shelter.If anybody knows of a pitbull type lawyer not afraid to go up against alot of power and money let me know.Also I would like to know how after over 5 years,mind you no evidence of anything this case would not be up front on a cold case file somewhere?

4/16/08 geojeff Message #3228   "First of all, like many of you, I suspect one of the monks was involved. It is commonly known that the Abbey houses known sex offenders. Standard police protocol should have guided a full investigation of these individuals that determined their whereabouts the night of, their travels and actions before and after the disappearance and many other facts. If these folks were housed anyplace else--they would have been rapidly ID'd as suspects and ‘shaken down’ by the police. ... The Abbey/Church's money controls the local politics to a large extent, thus the pushback from the authorities--nobody wants to bite the hand that feeds them. Politics in America! ... All solutions involve media focus and money. A major and concerted effort to draw attention to this case has to be initiated. YES, it has been done before, but you have to keep pushing and pushing! When that doesn't work, you push some more. Media attention will help collapse the Abbey’s house of cards. ... Could Josh’s story be ‘sold’ to one of the evening news shows for money to fund the investigation?? Could someone on this list make a catchy presentation to entice media to air the case again?? Josh is handsome young man in the prime of his life—cases like these are easier to sell to media. ... Also, maybe criminal justice students at a MN college could be solicited to take this investigation-- similar to the Chandra Levy case? (http://www.vsuspectator.com/?p=922) ... Simultaneously to the media work, money must be raised to fund a private investigator or lawyer. An aggressive bull-dog type investigator and/or a lawyer who knows how the local and State Police work, could really make some headway. Are there any retired investigators that could be hired by the family? The police may not be helpful, but they can not penalize the family in anyway for investigating. For example, which of the monks has a vehicle? What about the Abbey's phone records? Are the sex-offender monks free to come and go, do they have cars?? Why would they not allow searches of their property if they had nothing to hide? ... A lawyer might be able to file an open records request to obtain some of this info—the college is a private religious college, but it does accept some government money—so it might just fall under the open records act. If not, there are still legal avenues to continue the investigation. A well orchestrated lawsuit against the school for not providing Josh a safe environment could also facilitate a legal discovery process whereby the school and Abby would have to be more forthcoming. ... Lastly, many have speculated a link between Josh’s abduction and Jacob Wetterling. Has the family investigated this possibility?? Would the Jacob Wetterling foundation lend some support and work in tandem? ... My deepest sympathies to Josh’s friends and family; your government and the Church have both failed you terribly. It is time to take aggressive action. ... "

4/14/08 bob guimond Message #3227   "Aubs, I didn't mean to say nobody is listening, they are, but they still do nothing. It would be a breath of fresh air to see who you get that will listen, and when they listen what do you thing they will do. We want answers and can get none, maybe you can get some answers for us. The sherrif's office has told Brian that this case probably will not meet the BCA critera, as far as a Cold Case investegatgion, I guess I was right in saying they won't invite them in, Maybe you can get them invite the BCA in, maybe they will listen to you ... Thanks ... Bob Guimond"

4/13/08 Aubs Message #3226   Yes. What I'll do is to see to it that someone listens. If no one is listening, for all the good you do you might as well be sitting in a soundproof dungeon, shackled to the floor and screaming at the wall.

4/13/08 joshs dad Message #3225   Yes,politics are very much a part of this case Aubs.The only question is who is covering up for who,and who is pulling the strings.As I have said before it is who and what is involved why nothing will be done.For starters we have St.Johns,a very powerful entity, then we have Stearns County Sheriffs Department,not a very good track record for solving high profile cases,Wetterling and Reykers.So knowing this just what do you think you can do by having someone else speak for me? Mind you whoever will not have a clue to all my investigating.

4/12/08 DoubleDash Message #3224   Surely the authorities know by now that we are not going to go away -- we will get to the bottom of this, with or without their help. It would be a wonderful thing if the sheriff's dept. did decide to actively pursue Josh's case -- but -- based on what I've seen, I'm not holding my breath. Aubs, are you saying that, if the Guimond family gave you their permission, you would begin an investigation? If you can find creative ways to approach this situation, I hope you will. We need publicity for Josh's plight, we need people to care and get involved, we need influential people to seek answers on the family's behalf, and most of all, we need detectives and other investigative entities to assist in the search. Count me in, I will help however I can.

4/12/08 bob guimond Message #3223   "Aubs ... We have met with sheriff, asked questions and have gotten no answers, as what they are doing, or how the case is progressing. ... Must be the no tell us anything that county attorney said 5 years ago. ... Do you beleive that you or someone else ... could get answers. ... Oh by the way i called the BCA and asked if they could get involved in this as far as a Cold Case goes, and guess what ... they said the Local Sheriff would have to ask for their help. ... It will be very much of a supprise if they ask the BCA to look into it. I beleive the will not ask, because they have hardly anything to look into, from what we have been able to assertain, from the talks we have had with sheriff ... they didn't even know that we had picked up josh''s computer, so hows that for detective work. on one occasion a threat was made to stop asking questions, or maybe nothing would be looked into. maybe this is why nothing much has been done we ask too many questions. ... bob guimond ... grand dad ... "

4/11/08 Aubs Message #3222   Whatever the case, the politics of the matter are complex. Whatever it is that Josh's family has done for the past five years, it has not succeeded in moving the case forward. We cannot expect to continue doing the same thing and getting a different result. If we continue on the present path, the next five years will yield the same result as the first five years: nothing. We need a change of course and the first step is to find a competent mediator to represent the Guimond family. I stand ready to launch the initiative, but I cannot act on my own recognizance.

4/11/08 DoubleDash Message #3221   Well I think the family has been treated terribly, and I agree, when this case is solved, it won't be due to the sheriff's dept. It wasn't normal for someone like Josh to just disappear -- it was totally and completely out of character. Based on that alone, the sheriff and other investigating authorities should have immediately begun an agressive search and investigation, starting with interviewing people on campus that night, and I don't mean just the students. Look, it's become routine now to check the location and activities of sex offenders when a young person goes missing. How difficult a notion is that to comprehend? It's plain common sense!! I'm not trying to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I really don't like the way the locals who were involved in the case have gone silent. It's like no one wants any further attention drawn to this case. Pitiful!!! A young man went missing and no one cares??? Even the local paper barely touched on the subject at the five year missing date. That really disappointed me.

4/11/08 bob guimond Message #3220   "The dicision was made 2 weeks after josh disappeared not to tell us anything. we gave our own discoveries ... to the sheriff county attorney, bca and fbi and that was when the county attorey told the sheriff not to tell us any more. she must have thought our discoveries was given to by the sheriff, and this was explaned to her these were our own findings not the sheriff, but she said, i am telling the sheriff not to tell you anymore. what dose that say for No coperation from the very start. They had no intentions from the very start to helus. Now what reason or conclusion can be drawn from this. ... grand dad"

4/11/08 joshs dad Message #3219   in a perfect world that might be the route to go,but this is not a perfect world. As I said before this will not be solved by any government agency because of who is involved.I am positive nobody has investigated this more than I,we need a completly independant missing person group of people, open to some unique methods of locating individuals.

4/10/08 Aubs Message #3218   If what Mr. Bob Guimond has said is correct, it could imply that the county attorney and/or sheriff has made a determination, for whatever reason, not to deal directly with the Guimond family. That reinforces the point made by the webmaster about the value of a lawyer representing the Guimonds. Because lawyers are expensive, a good alternative would be to work with an elected representative. Unfortunately, the Guimonds' member of Congress will not be up to the task; however, their state representative or state senator might be a possibility worth exploring. I'd be happy to get the ball rolling, if requested by the Guimond family.

4/10/08 webmaster Message #3217   Hmmm... The article that I mentioned a few posts back talked about the BCA handing out a DNA kit to family members of those missing. I can not see any harm in asking them directly for the kit if someone in Joshua's immediate family has not already received one. I can also not see any harm in talking directly with them about the current status. BMW is correct in his statements about the BCA. They give contact info directly on their web site... use it! Aubs suggestion about obtaining some legal assistance is also good advice. Get someone else on your side to help legally battle those that don't seem to be doing anything.

4/10/08 bob guimond Message #3216   "The only direction this case is going in is the direction the Sheriff wants it to go. If the BCA needs to be asked to help, the Sheriff probably will not allow it, just like in the past. as far as being lied to and forget the cult connection if any, it sure dose lower their credibility don't you think. Sheriff will not tell us anything they are doing and that is in direct respons from the comments of the county attorney, she said not to tell us anything. that was as the same meeting they lied to us. ... we gave them some question to ask interested parties last last year and have not heard anything yet. dose this look like they are still looking. ... Bob Guimond ... Grand Dad"

4/9/08 DoubleDash Message #3215   I have to agree with BMW and Aubs -- after five years and no movement on the case -- we've got to try everything we can. I don't see how they can deny a family who asks for help. Surely the authorities know by now that Josh did not magically disappear on the campus grounds - he was lured and abducted by someone on that campus. A thorough investigation was never done...by "thorough" I mean all the monks questioned as to their whereabouts on the night of Nov.9/10. And I still think there is at least one other person if not several who know who the perpetrator is. How can they remain silent...it is deeply troubling. I want to find out if Minnesota has a special day dedicated to missing people -- we should plaster Josh's picture and info everywhere....

4/8/08 BMW Message #3214   Mr. Guimond, I understand your apprehension regarding this, but isn't it at least worth a try? The BCA is Minnesota's state investigative force and has one of the most sophisticated labs in the country, not to mention many talented people.

4/7/08 Aubs Message #3213   Mr. Guimond. Maybe there is cult activity, and maybe they even lied about it, but maybe it's a dead end in solving Josh's disappearance. Maybe the investigation needs to proceed in a different direction: a lone wolf.

4/7/08 bob guimond Message #3212   "I hate to burst bubbles but as far as deliberateing with the BCA, FBI, Sheriff, ... and County Attorney is concedrned, 2 weeks after Josh Disappeared We had a meeting with the above people, and they all LIED yes i said LIED, to the famly and they all said their was no cult activity in Minnesota let alone Stearns County, so now how the hell can we deliberate with a liar. Two weeks later the FBI arrested 2 Cult members in Minneapolis, but their is no cult activity in Minnesota or Stearns County. ... This is very hard to swallow folks ... Any suggestions on how to proceed with the cold case in lite of what i have stated. ... HELP ... Bob Guimond ... "

4/2/08 Aubs Message #3211   Good advice, Mr. Webmaster. To add to your suggestion, I would advise Josh's family to appoint a representative -- a lawyer, for instance -- to deliberate with the BCA on his behalf.

4/2/08 webmaster Message #3210   Contact the Minnesota BCA directly if the Sheriff is unwilling to do it for you. Contact information as well as information about their cold case unit is found on their web site... Ask them about the article on the WCCO web site and what is being done in the case of Josh's disappearance. http://www.bca.state.mn.us/bca.asp

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